Bridgestone wrote:Thanks for the inspiration to get out and find some of my own mushrooms. Please keep us posted if the weather turns any more mushroom-friendly!
Josephine wrote:I find myself wondering if, in Sweden, that storied land of universal healthcare, you have pharmacists, who, like their French counterparts, are qualified mycologists. I remember my astonishment when, in Blois, France, I inquired as to why there was a display of mushrooms in the window of a local pharmacy. "For Public Safety," was the reply.
Josephine wrote:What say you, experienced mushroom hunters? Was that just the publsher's legal team talking? Is there any kind of structured mushroom identification protocol that a layperson with minimal experience can use?
Bill/SFNM wrote:Josephine wrote:What say you, experienced mushroom hunters? Was that just the publsher's legal team talking? Is there any kind of structured mushroom identification protocol that a layperson with minimal experience can use?
Very simply, some mushrooms are easily identified by sight; others require careful examination, and some are just too ambiguous to take the risk.
I stick with the easy ones: porcini, chanterelles, and morels.
Bridgestone wrote: On what is perhaps a similar note to Cathy2's story, none of my Swedish mushroom books list Chicken of the Woods (Laetiporus sulphureus) as "tasty" or even "edible" for that matter. This leads me to believe that there is a decent amount of culture and tradition involved in choosing non-poisonous mushrooms for the kitchen. What is "tasty" in Russia may well not be "tasty" in Vienna.
On an even stranger note, many elderly Swedes consider Gyromitra esculenta a delicacy after parboiling them repeatedly to remove the toxins. Recent research has shown, however, that variations in the mushrooms and/or the parboiling and/or an accumulation of toxins in frequent eaters may lead to poisoning despite decades of symptom-free consumption. These days, the mushroom is labelled as poisonous in all mushrooms books (Wikipedia has puzzlingly labeled them as both "choice" and "deadly"!) but can still be served in restaurants where it is assumed that professional chefs can properly handle them. So, keeping up with research also has a factor in mushroom identification...
Cathy2, April 29, 2007 wrote:(Finding Gyromitra esculenta) These are not an issue in the Chicago area. While the Gyromitra esculenta looks like a brain on a stem, it is hefty and when cut in half is a solid mass. Whereas a morel cut in half is light weight and hollow inside. Those who mistakenly ID a Gyromatra esculenta often believe they won the morel sweepstakes because they are so generously sized.
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In Missouri, Gyromitra esculenta's are nicknamed 'Big Red' with some people actively seeking them out. There were some rumors people in Michigan were also eating them. A friend went to a diner to check this by making casual conversation. One waitress advised, "I personally will not eat them, though I do prepare them for my husband." Her recitation of this anecdote was snort coffee through your nose moment for my mushroom friends. I'm sure there are Illinois residents who hunt them, I just don't have a related anecdote for them!
Cathy2, February, 2008 wrote:The False Morel Gyromitra esculenta , which pops up during morel season in various regions, is consider poisonous due to hydrazine. Just as often as false morels mentioned, the usual caution is stated, "False morels have hydrazine, which is a component in jet fuel. Do not eat it." Accordind to Tom Volk, "The active ingredient is called gyromitrin (N-methyl-N-formylhydrazine), which is metabolized to monomethylhydrazine (rocket fuel!) in the body." Despite the warnings, there are people who eat it anyway. The hydrazine has an accumulative effect, a gathering storm mind you, because it never leaves your system. You can eat them over some years with no ill effect, then once you have passed a certain threshold you have liver failure and chronic health problems. However depending on your body chemistry and general health, the consumption of the false morel can affect you quicker. There is research to suggest hydrazine can trigger tumors, which really isn't a swell residual affect from dining.
If you want to learn the straight story on the false morel, then please read Tom Volk's Fungus of the Month: Gyromitra esculenta, one of the false morels for complete information.
Bridgestone wrote:This leads me to believe that there is a decent amount of culture and tradition involved in choosing non-poisonous mushrooms for the kitchen. What is "tasty" in Russia may well not be "tasty" in Vienna.
MHays wrote:I will never forget my brief discussion with the mycologist at the Field Museum, who is very excited about edible mushrooms and eager to share his knowledge. He told a story about a couple from France foraging here, insisting that they knew what they were doing - but they didn't know that locally, Chanterelles have a poisonous look-alike, the Jack-O-Lantern, which apparently doesn't grow in Europe - they became quite ill. Though I'd agree about culture, it's also possible that you have a lookalike or poisonous variety there.
nr706 wrote:Damn. Someone walking along the sidewalk kicked my sulfur shelf away.
nr706 wrote:Damn. Someone walking along the sidewalk kicked my sulfur shelf away. Anyone know how to transplant a sulfur shelf mushroom to my more protected back yard?
Yes, I know that's impossible - it's a rhetorical question.
Schuyler wrote:I was out on the Des Plaines River Trail biking on the last Sunday in Sept. It must have been mushroom day. There were 2 women with wicker baskets full of what looked like shitake mushrooms. And there was one guy with 6 foot long aluminum that said he was cutting mushrooms off the higher limbs of trees. he wouldn't show me what was in his bag, so I'm just curious if anyone knows what the heck those were.
I grew up in Central Illinois and have picked mushrooms since I was old enough to go out with the family, but just morels, nothing else. I am curious about all the varieties. I will look for a mushroom hunters group on google.