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    Post #1 - September 17th, 2004, 9:51 am
    Post #1 - September 17th, 2004, 9:51 am Post #1 - September 17th, 2004, 9:51 am
    After making and bottling Limoncello, Vin de Noix, Nocello, and a Provencal orange and coffee bean liqueur, a friend put the notion in my head that if I could procure wormwood, I could make Absinthe. I've since found a handful of vendors online for wormwood and a couple of recipes and I'm about to embark. However, I have a few questions.

    1. Have any of you ever done this before?

    2. What quantity of wormwood to liquour is appropriate? I've seen an ounce to 750 ml recommended.

    3. What other ingredients would you recommend? Are the steeping times variable?

    Basically, any input is very welcome.

    If it doesn't kill me, I'll post an update.

    Thanks,

    rien
  • Post #2 - September 17th, 2004, 10:15 am
    Post #2 - September 17th, 2004, 10:15 am Post #2 - September 17th, 2004, 10:15 am
    Rein,

    I have only heard of one or two people making this brew. However, if you pm your address, I will try to put you in touch with the last one that I heard about.

    You might also try a search, I would assume there is a home brewers, distillers and concoctor's chat group somewhere on Al Gore's internet.

    pd
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  • Post #3 - September 17th, 2004, 6:33 pm
    Post #3 - September 17th, 2004, 6:33 pm Post #3 - September 17th, 2004, 6:33 pm
    Peter,

    Too funny.

    Wouldn't Al, or at least Tipper, die if he knew HIS internet was being used for moonshining activity.

    Cheers,
    Al[/b]
  • Post #4 - September 17th, 2004, 11:57 pm
    Post #4 - September 17th, 2004, 11:57 pm Post #4 - September 17th, 2004, 11:57 pm
    Rien

    My pal Tommy recently made up a batch of absinthe with one of those internet kits and some Polish vodka and sprung in on a group of us one night at Resi's Bierstube.Save your money,the stuff is all swill and no thrill.Had a really nasty raw,herbal taste.

    Although I have no personal experience with this sort of thing I've heard that these make a fine tea.
    http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Amanita:Dried%20Caps

    John
  • Post #5 - September 19th, 2004, 10:40 pm
    Post #5 - September 19th, 2004, 10:40 pm Post #5 - September 19th, 2004, 10:40 pm
    Although I have no personal experience with this sort of thing I've heard that these make a fine tea.
    http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse ... ied%20Caps


    I would suggest it is irresponsible to consider ingesting this mushroom as a tea. I refer to Tom Volk's website where he discusses Amanita muscaria:

    Besides the brightly colored and large fruiting bodies, there is substantial interest in this mushroom because it is poisonous and hallucinogenic. Most fruiting bodies contain two toxins, ibotenic acid and muscimol. Ingestion of these toxins results in "expanded perception," talking to God, macropsia (perceiving objects as enlarged), rapid heartbeat, dry mouth. They are hallucinogenic and psychoactive, acting on the nervous system as neuropeptide receptors. (For those of your interested in neurobiology, muscimol is a substrate analog for GABA [gamma-amino-butyric acid], and ibotenate is a substrate analog for NMDA [N-methyl-D-aspartic acid]). GABA normally acts as a neurotransmitter and NMDA acts as glutamate receptor responsible for learning in a part of the brain known as the amygdala. The amygdala is the part of the brain responsible for fear. Studies in rats have shown that the inactivation of this area of the brain through the use of muscimol and ibotenate will inhibit fear learning and the startle reflex. Eating the mushrooms effective turn off the fear emotion. [Many thanks to Brad Seebach, the neurobiologist in my department, for help with this section]

    These mushrooms were effectively used by the Vikings when they were getting ready to invade a land. The Vikings essentially turned off their fear emotions, thus gaining their reputation for their fierceness. The people of many cultures of northern Europe lived in constant fear of invasion. Vikings would enter a village fearlessly, wreak havoc among the people and carry off the women. Before entering battle, the Vikings would go through a religious ritual in which they would dance around the woods and consume Amanita muscaria. So the main reason the Vikings were able to fight without fear is that they were on drugs! For this reason the Vikings were also known as the berserkers.

    ...

    As it turns out the Vikings were lucky that they didn't have to endure a lot of nasty side effects. In many parts of the world these mushrooms also contain toxins that make a person violently ill. This substance is apparently metabolized by the body while the hallucinogens are passed through the body unchanged. For that reason, some people used to drink the urine of other people (or animals) who had ingested the mushrooms, to get high without any of those nasty side effects. Some specimens contain a great deal of the chemical that makes you sick and very little of the hallucinogen. It can also be easily mistaken for Amanita pantherina or other Amanita species that are deadly poisonous. For these reasons I do NOT recommend recreational use of this mushroom and claim no responsibility if you foolishly decide to do so. (how's that for a disclaimer?)


    There are Amanitas which if you ingest only some grams you are either seeking a new liver, if you are lucky, or death. Please take this into consideration.
    Cathy2

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  • Post #6 - September 20th, 2004, 11:48 am
    Post #6 - September 20th, 2004, 11:48 am Post #6 - September 20th, 2004, 11:48 am
    JSM,


    For that reason, some people used to drink the urine of other people (or animals) who had ingested the mushrooms, to get high without any of those nasty side effects.



    Did you mean it makes a fine pee? :lol:
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  • Post #7 - September 20th, 2004, 8:10 pm
    Post #7 - September 20th, 2004, 8:10 pm Post #7 - September 20th, 2004, 8:10 pm
    Peter
    Isn't that what you Wisconsin guys call "cow tripping?"
    kinda putts a new spin on getting "pissed off" :P

    John
  • Post #8 - September 21st, 2004, 9:54 am
    Post #8 - September 21st, 2004, 9:54 am Post #8 - September 21st, 2004, 9:54 am
    After much research, I've found that basically home infusion of wormwood is not a viable endeavor. Best case scenario you get a slightly nasty beverage. Worst case, you cause irreparable liver damage. Disappointment is mitigated by the fact that you can easily buy very high quality Absinthe over the internet.

    The best site I've found is http://www.feeverte.net/. A great review section and informative purchasing info.

    Thanks for the input ... particularly the hallucinogenic urine information. I'm certain that will come in quite handy some day ...

    rien

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