Dmnkly wrote: Ramon, again, I overstepped in tone and I apologize if I offended.

No, Dom, you did not offend me, but by addressing your reasonable objections at me, I felt unable to stop myself from defending something I wasn't fully endorsing to begin with. On top of that, I was over wrought with adrenalin from the Rex Resurrection and Hester Hysteria and should have been sleeping. Rereading my post, I believe I was more antagonistic to you than warranted, if not outright befuddled. I owe you a bottle of your favorite water.

In general, though, if our experts truly understood the effects of various amounts of the different sugars on our bodies we would have no need for insulin. It is naïve to think that because we have so readily available “facts” we know the score. Or that one’s subjective one time experience is science. Truthiness verse objectivism.

As to GMF, it should perhaps be a banned topic on LTH, but has yet to even near a boiling point. I have no problem consuming genetically modified foods myself, but I am uneasy feeding them to my children. I am angry that our government doesn’t even allow me the choice. But, I’m more worried about the GMF industry itself, than the actual food it produces.

sazerac wrote: what you couldn't track down Ramon?

Yes, I agree. Next time I link (or post) something provocative, even absurd, (undoubtedly a soon to happen occurrence) please use me as your guinea pig, not yourselves. It’s likely I’m not saying what you think I’m saying anyway.

-ramon

Ramon wrote:On top of that, I was over wrought with adrenalin from the Rex Resurrection and Hester Hysteria

I was similarly enthused, and if a thread is ever to get a little too lively, I, for one, cannot think of a better reason

Hi,

This whole conversation plus the personal experimentation reminds me of a meeting at Fat Ladies Club many years ago. The leader subscribed to a newsletter, which issued hysterical press releases on a pretty regular basis. She would bring them to meetings as part of the lesson plan, which I found annoying, especially when most really wanted to believe this nonsense. Once it was related to Coke with anecdotal evidence of how it cleaned rusty nails. If it could deal with rust, then what was it doing to your stomach?

When I returned home, I gathered several mason jars and heavily rusted nails. I weighed the nails in my kitchen scale using the grams scale for its higher sensitivity. I filled each jar with either Coke Classic, Diet Coke or Water (as my baseline). If Coke really dissolved rust, then there would be very little of the nails to see.

The following week, I brought my jars to Fat Ladies Club. I also brought my scale and data, then proceeded to dry and weigh them at the meeting. Beyond the discoloration to the liquid, the nails remained largely in the same state.

I noticed my experiment irritated the leader, who really wanted to believe the hysterics. Naturally I brought them to the next two meetings until she finally gave up on her information. She also found other source materials for future meetings, which was the outcome I really desired.

Regards,

Of course, even if Coke did remove rust, that's no proof it would hurt your stomach. Stomachs naturally produce hydrocholoric acid, and that will pretty well dissolve a nail, given a little time.

Actually, Coke in the old days probably had more effect on nails, because refined sugar binds to iron (that's why they use copper pots to make candy), but no refined sugar is used in Coke these days -- it's high fructose corn sweetener -- which may accelerate the aging process and contribute to an increased risk of cancer, but apparently doesn't dissolve nails.

Cathy2,

I saw one of those blast faxes a few years ago that listed some 65 bad things that could happen to you if you imbibed Coca-Cola. What was funny was that getting fat was not one of the 65 bad things.

At my peak, I was drinking 10-12 cans a day ... now that is a year's intake.

Speaking of coke and vitamins:

A Diet Coke instead of a multivitamin?

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Coca-Cola plans to launch a new version of Diet Coke in 2007 that is fortified with vitamins and minerals, according to a report published Friday.

Diet Coke Plus, slated for a spring launch, will be the first nutrient-enhanced carbonated soda to be offered by a major brand, said Beverage Digest.

It won't replace Diet Coke, it'll be a separate product.

I wish they'd done Coke Zero Plus, instead.

Dmnkly wrote:

but how do we know you didn't add phosphoric acid to it???

no, kidding. that was seriously great!

Dmnkly wrote: Every pregnant woman takes a glucose challenge that puts 100 grams of pure glucose in a bottle that I think is even smaller than 12 oz, and certainly no larger.

I will attest - I will never, never, never forget taking that test and I came very close to throwing up (albeit, partly because Sparky had two feet on my stomach at the time) That stuff will make you never want sugar again...until the pregnancy cravings take over. Generally, for most women it's 50g of glucose in a very vile "orange" syrup called Glucola, but if you're at risk (which I was) you do get a viscous, nasty 100g in a very small bottle.

The real issue is that a can of soda generally has 140-170 empty calories; juice is about as bad. What are REALLY bad for you are the drinks at coffee shops; an 12 oz Cafe Mocha at Starbucks with whipped cream has 310 calories - I'd rather have two slices of cake. Not to say that I don't drink Coke with sugar - but I don't mind Diet, especially if I can eat more. As for caffeine, here's a chart: drip coffee contains the most. There's just as much press about the benefits of caffeine as there is about the possible drawbacks; both sides seem to rely heavily on conjecture rather than hard science.

Good for you, though, for putting diet scare tactics to the test!

hfcs and contaniment traces of jet fuel, withstanding ...

who in their right mind, amongst us... would rather drink from a deep wellspring of H2O...ohhh?

not many... apparently.

How funny that this thread should float to the top- my boyfriend just sent me this article about Costco selling Mexican Coca-Cola in time for Cinco De Mayo:

http://yumsugar.com/239889

Anyone know if the Costcos around here are selling it?

I rarely drink any pop, so I don't know if I'd want an entire case of it. I've heard some Mexican grocery stores sell it, though. Does anyone have a source for individual bottles?

Poke around stores in Mexican areas, or restaurants, and look for Coke bottles with a paper label attached. That's the easiest way to spot Mexican Coke, which used to be fairly ubiquitous (may be rarer now).

Mike G wrote:Poke around stores in Mexican areas, or restaurants, and look for Coke bottles with a paper label attached. That's the easiest way to spot Mexican Coke, which used to be fairly ubiquitous (may be rarer now).

One warning.

MANY of the bottles that i have seen at LaRosita's and other MEXICAN markets read "Sugar and/or Corn syrup." It is no slam dunk that you will get a Coca-Cola with sugar.

When I was in Laredo, TX, I bought a long-neck Coke imported and it was not made with sugar (and was the worst).

Lot of interesting threads here:

Growing up - quite a few years ago - I always "knew" that pouring Coke on a rusted-tight bolt was a sure way to make it come free. Had to let it sit overnight, as I recall. I wasn't a gearhead, so I never actually tried it, but I've spoken to contemporaries and they all "knew" that, too.

Just this year I saw on the internet that pouring (contemporary) Coke on oil-stained concrete was an excellent way to remove the stain. I'm responsible for contracting for pressure-washing several parking garages in my condo complex, and I think I'm going to to give that one a shot.

I'm puzzled by the references to "Coke syrup" as a medicinal treatment. I've always heard how secret the syrup is, but also how expensive. I wonder just what that stuff really was?

My son is a machine-controls engineer, and about 10 years ago his company was contracted to develop a syrup-injection system for the Indianapolis Coke bottler. They wanted a hyper-accurate system to squirt the Coke syrup into each can/bottle before it was filled with carbonated water on the bottling line.

The point was that the Coke syrup they bought from Atlanta was so expensive that thay didn't want to waste a single molecule in dosing the cans. He said the super-secret Coke syrup came in re-usable plastic containers which were basically cubes about 28-30" on a side. Each container - 10 or so years ago - cost the bottlers about $14,000.
It made a whole lot of cans of Coke, but they really didn't want to waste any.
I just wonder if the "Coke syrup" was really the same stuff.

Myself, I drink a bottle of Coke about once every 15 years.

Growing up - quite a few years ago - I always "knew" that pouring Coke on a rusted-tight bolt was a sure way to make it come free. Had to let it sit overnight, as I recall. I wasn't a gearhead, so I never actually tried it, but I've spoken to contemporaries and they all "knew" that, too.

I've experimented with rust and Coke to find it ineffective.

Just this year I saw on the internet that pouring (contemporary) Coke on oil-stained concrete was an excellent way to remove the stain. I'm responsible for contracting for pressure-washing several parking garages in my condo complex, and I think I'm going to to give that one a shot.

Once you have completed your experiment, then please do advise the outcome. My guestimate it will not work, though I don't mind being proven wrong.

Regards,

Hi,

d4v3 reminded me of this classic thread from December, 2006. It is something to bookmark to read while hiding at home from the snow and bitter cold.

Enjoy!

Regards,
Cathy2

After rereading this thread and doing some googling around, I think I finally understand why there is "so much" (but really not that much, Brixwise, as explained above) sugar in Coca-Cola and why there is phosphoric acid in Coca-Cola (for tangy flavor, as also explained above).

The phosphoric acid is not there to mask the sugar, nor is the sugar there to mask the phosphoric acid. If either were true, reducing the contents of both would be the obvious cost-saving solution. They---sweet and sour---are both there to balance the taste of caffeine, which is the intensely bitter modern-day replacement for the original coca in Coca-Cola.

I suppose this is also why Mountain Dew, which has more caffeine than Coke, has more sugar too.

That does make me wonder why caffeine-free colas can't be made with less sugar than caffeinated colas, but maybe it's simply because taste tests have shown cola producers that people want their caffeine-free sodas to be just as sweet as their caffeinated ones.

Back in the 50's when I went to work with my dad at his drug store, I recall him dispensing pure Coke syrup in small glass bottles to customers that complained about having an upset stomach. I don't recall the prescribed dosage, but it was probably a teaspoon or tablespoon of Coke syrup when experiencing a stomach ache.
https://www.vermontcountrystore.com/pur ... duct/21650

CSD

I've seen cola syrup in the Osco part of Jewel-Osco fairly recently. I think you can also get it at Walgreens.

GFS sells Coca Cola syrup, but only if you show a retail business license.