adding to Christopher Gordon's List:

www.twistedvillage.com
http://www.rermegacorp.com/
www.midheaven.com
http://www.erstwhilerecords.com

Sorry. I'm still not impressed. The music you enjoy doesn't make you a better person than someone else who enjoys something less esoteric.

I agree -- except in my own case.

Right now:

Dirtbombs
the Wedding Present
Dave Brubeck -- Time Out (when I want to feel all classy)
Bonny Prince Billy -- Greatest Palace Music (which I think all of his fans HATE)
George Jones

That is why I'm so cool.

A related question: Our one year old is perfect in every way, except he shows no inclination to rock. All of the other kids in his daycare class seem to enjoy moving to music -- bouncing up and down in that toddler way -- but our boy seems to prefer to sit quietly working on a puzzle. We've tried Free to be you and Me, the They Might be Giants kids album, Herb Alpert (which I loved as a kid), along with all of the other usual suspects, but no rocking. We did see him move to Pink Floyd once -- certainly not a good sign. Any suggestions?

edk wrote: We did see him move to Pink Floyd once -- certainly not a good sign. Any suggestions?

Be sure to lock up your stash.

edk wrote:A related question: Our one year old is perfect in every way, except he shows no inclination to rock... Any suggestions?

edk:

Try Rahsaan Roland Kirk, especially 'Baby, Let Me Shake Your Tree':


http://lthforum.com/bb/posting.php?mode=quote&p=61755

Lucantonius also recommends Raï Kum, which he has enjoyed immensely since he was about one year old.

Antonius

Our one year old is perfect in every way, except he shows no inclination to rock.

That's because rock is your music.

He will start listening to hip hop when he's three, and you will hate it. That will be the point of his music for the next 17 years or so.

edk wrote:

Sorry. I'm still not impressed. The music you enjoy doesn't make you a better person than someone else who enjoys something less esoteric.

I agree -- except in my own case.

Right now:

Dirtbombs
the Wedding Present
Dave Brubeck -- Time Out (when I want to feel all classy)
Bonny Prince Billy -- Greatest Palace Music (which I think all of his fans HATE)
George Jones

That is why I'm so cool.

A related question: Our one year old is perfect in every way, except he shows no inclination to rock. All of the other kids in his daycare class seem to enjoy moving to music -- bouncing up and down in that toddler way -- but our boy seems to prefer to sit quietly working on a puzzle. We've tried Free to be you and Me, the They Might be Giants kids album, Herb Alpert (which I loved as a kid), along with all of the other usual suspects, but no rocking. We did see him move to Pink Floyd once -- certainly not a good sign. Any suggestions?

only early Wedding Present I assume

Perhaps he'd enjoy Wee Hairy Beasties? Have they recorded anything?
My relatively ancient butt shook almost as much as the mosh pit of toddlers at The Brookfield Zoo this past Fall.

http://www.kellyhogan.com/pipermail/khf ... 00099.html

Mike G wrote:

Our one year old is perfect in every way, except he shows no inclination to rock.

That's because rock is your music.

He will start listening to hip hop when he's three, and you will hate it. That will be the point of his music for the next 17 years or so.

How dissappointing yet true. If I had ever had a kid or two, I had hoped to share my love of music with them. But Mike is right; any attempt to "share" our tastes with our offspring (or anybody else) is a decision that is bound to result in failure. Taste in music -- or even just a basic appreciation of it -- is highly, highly personal, and not to be translated, imposed or imparted to another. You can only show it to them (as Ken Nordine once famously asked, can you show a sound? Why not... anyway). If I did have kids, and if Mike's analysis is literally true and inevitable, then I guess I'd be listening to music secretly, perhaps only alone in the car or on headphones. Or I'd build a sound-proof bunker in the basement for my reclusive listening pleasure, post-kid bedtime. Maybe let them believe I have a drinking problem, just to be left alone by them. This would be my means of protecting them from the reaction noted by Mike, above. Otherwise, I'd be cutting them off from the possible enjoyment (at least admitted enjoyment) of the entire canon of Western music not composed and performed in the last 15 minutes, any and all of which I am at least open to listening to carefully and critically. Keeping carefully open (but critical) ears, with no pre-judgment and in the perennial attempt to expand my enjoyment in a new direction, has been central to my largely autodidactic experience of and ecucation in music appreciation for many, many years now. My own parents hardly listened to music at all, and it's a neverending source of amazement to Mrs. JiLS just how much I care about the stuff (she can take or leave most of it; it's just a soundtrack for her). There must be a music-appreciation gene; it probably relates to math ability and may have skipped down or across my own family tree. While I love and appreciate music deeply, I cannot carry a tune nor can I play an instrument; likewise, I got all A's in math up until that last semester of calculus in high school, in which I crashed and burned. I get both music and math; I just cannot do them. Just an interesting parallel there. All that said, no form of art is more conducive to hermetic geekiness than music. That is because there is so much of it, and the experience requires an investment of time to appreciate, that naturally one tends to lock into something and make it personal, if for no other reason than that the prospect of developing a catholic taste in music through direct experience is daunting. And there are also 3,000,000 books in the library. Ah, Dr. Faustus; I grok thee, I do.

Partly I jest. Sorry it depressed.

Actually, through exposure to both lots of musical genres and the pop culture landscape (i.e., Warner Brothers cartoons) in which they're featured, my kids at least have an appreciation for other kinds of music to go with what is, to judge by their reaction as I speed through the radio presets, an atavistic preference for rock. For instance, this morning they were marching a la The Spirit of '76 (Myles drumming and Liam playing the fife) to "You're a Grand Old Flag," which they not only know the main words to but the opening lines which hardly anyone has sung for eighty years:

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/natlib/ihas/servi ... 010366.mp3

(Of course, where they learned how to march like The Spirit of '76 was from the Warner Brothers cartoon Old Glory, the one in which Uncle Sam comes to Porky in a dream and tells him all about Patrick Henry and Paul Revere and, I dunno, the XYZ Affair or Aaron Burr or something.)

So all you can do is try exposing them to the rich variety of music and everything else made before last week, and some of it may stick and some of it may only be deep programming for later recall. Your worst enemies in this endeavor, however, will not be your kids but other parents, who will be sure that nothing black and white, older than 1997, or not approved by the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly could possibly appeal to any modern child.

Well said, JiLS. I also grew up in a house with folks who seemed to care little about music. The exception being my father turning the car radio to Benny Goodman. I have always suspected somehow that I compensated by turning music into a prevailing and defining passion in my life. Similarly, I can't play a lick myself, (my wife is a musician) but I listen carefully and critically everyday in hopes of learning something new or rediscovering something old.

And while I agree with sundevilpeg that "The music you enjoy doesn't make you a better person than someone else who enjoys something less esoteric."

I never got the feeling the discussion here carried that judgement.


Lastly, I also like to offer Hardboiled Records on Roscoe as an excellent local shop. A smaller selection, perhaps, but all selections are chosen very carefully. And a great DVD collection to boot.

only early Wedding Present I assume

Dude, only Albini produced Wedding Present.

That's because rock is your music.

He will start listening to hip hop when he's three, and you will hate it. That will be the point of his music for the next 17 years or so.

I know, I know. My real fear is that they (whoever they might be) will come up with some even more annoying (not that I find all hip hop annoying) form of "music" that will drive all of us right thinking people to distraction. I shudder to think what it will be. They will probably be implanting chips into our kids brains and mainlining the stuff into their synapses -- which, come to think of it, would at least be quiet.
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If only albini-produced wedding present, I guess you missed out on George Best(1987), my favorite pop album of the late '80s (and I still listen to it, despite all my 'pretentious' musical leanings). Soooo good.

I was just curious how many of you still listen to vinyl. At some point a few years back, my vinyl collection eclipsed my CD's. Don't get me wrong, I'm no snob - I love the convenience of my iPod but nothing beats listening to an actual vinyl record on a good stereo system. Now if I could just find a way to play records in my car...

At any rate, here is what has been spinning on my turntable lately:

Louvin Brothers - "Satan Is Real"
Van Morrison - "Saint Dominics Preview"
Richard Hell + Voivoids - "Destiny Street" (test pressing - for any of you geeks)

If I can shamelessly self promote myself for a second, this is my business. Please stop by some time and say hi sometime.

johnny wrote:I was just curious how many of you still listen to vinyl. At some point a few years back, my vinyl collection eclipsed my CD's. Don't get me wrong, I'm no snob - I love the convenience of my iPod but nothing beats listening to an actual vinyl record on a good stereo system. Now if I could just find a way to play records in my car...

At any rate, here is what has been spinning on my turntable lately:

Louvin Brothers - "Satan Is Real"
Van Morrison - "Saint Dominics Preview"
Richard Hell + Voivoids - "Destiny Street" (test pressing - for any of you geeks)

If I can shamelessly self promote myself for a second, this is my business. Please stop by some time and say hi sometime.

I'm amused by those that declare the death of vinyl; those that have tossed their turntables, etc. Vinyl's a viable consumer medium(not to mention DJ use). Any music store worth it's salt carries record albums i.e not Coconuts or Sam Goody.

Hell, I have crates of cassette tapes Homestead and Axiom and ROIR dating from the early-80's.

And, yes, sure, I iPod; which leads me to another misapprehension...that of "experts" trotting out their screeds against self-alienation and self-incurred deafness...puhleeze...the same people that look askance as I mosey on my Apple-aided way are the same that poopoo-ed my metal Sony Walkman, as thee kidz say, back-in-the-day. And, I so don't want to be included in the iPod white-corded generation. There are alternatives, but I'm Macintosh to the core and therefore am relegated to their fashion iconography(the headfones aren't bad...just aesthetically homogenized).

It's the marketplace that makes decisions for many music listeners, to ignore the ready availability of divers creative expression recorded on a plethora of ("archaic") sonic media.

and referring back to an earlier post : to announce that one who listens to music outside the prescribed canon is pretentious is ultimately bunk

listening to: Mary J. Blige

I still buy vinyl, the Sun Ra reissues that Art Yard have been doing are LP-only, I think. Plus, what is better than finding a great record in great shape for $3? Maybe finding an equally great lunch within walking distance of the record store..(La Pasadita, I'm looking at you) Or the Ribs and Bibs Pork Sandwich - Hyde Park records combo..shop first to keep porcine grease off the records.

To echo earlier posts, I am not at all surprised that this board is partially populated with music obsessives. Also, I am not sure how the discussion of less-popular artists is by default pretentious. Remember, once upon a time, you did not know who the Beatles or the Stones were. How else are my fellow obsessives and I going to find new things to obsess over?

Another thing I've wanted to post here for a while relating to music and food is this song by Slim Gaillard: Yip Roc Heresy

The title should probably be Yebrak (transliteration help?) Harissa, because apparently Slim was singing the words on a Lebanese restaurant menu. My Lebanese friend tells me that yebrak is a word for grape leaves and even I know what harissa is, but what about the rest of the words that aren't kibbe? Perhaps one of the Arabic speakers can assist? Some of the words come from Slim's own lexicon, which he called vout, but I know there are other food words in there that I am missing.

If posting this is a problem, the mods should delete it*; the link expires on its' own in 7 days or a low number of downloads.

*In my world, when Slim expired in 1991, his copyright went with him, but I am well aware that my opinion is not shared by the courts.
Edited for spelling

unbeknowneth wrote:Another thing I've wanted to post here for a while relating to music and food is this song by Slim Gaillard: Yip Roc Heresy

Excellent refernce. Slim did many great food songs, including "When Banana Skins are Falling," "Matzoh Balls and Gefilte Fish," and of course the ever-popular "Avocado Seed Soup Symphony."

nr706 wrote:

unbeknowneth wrote:Another thing I've wanted to post here for a while relating to music and food is this song by Slim Gaillard: Yip Roc Heresy

Excellent refernce. Slim did many great food songs, including "When Banana Skins are Falling," "Matzoh Balls and Gefilte Fish," and of course the ever-popular "Avocado Seed Soup Symphony."

Not to mention his ode to drinking in the post-Nagasaki age, "Atomic Cocktail." VOUT!

-- Hungaree-beetee-bottee-rabbi

Top albums of the moment:

Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
South - Adventures In The Underground Journey To The Stars
Devendra Banhart - Cripple Crow
Stereolab - Fab Four Suture
Wolf Parade - Apologies To The Queen Mary
Ms. John Soda - Notes And The Like
Françoise Hardy - The Vogue Years

Right now I'm listed to the damned singer in the Potbelly directly below my desk. He's sitting on a platform near the ceiling, too, so as much "music" is reaching us up here as it is the customers down there.

There is a singer there 3 days a week for about 4-5 hours a day. It is one of the most aggravating things I've ever experienced. I can't imagine how much it must suck to work in the store.

Ed,

Potbelly in Highland Park has the live entertainment, too. The first time I encountered it, I didn't realize it was live and I didn't realize it was just above us within hearing range. Just as I was about to open my big mouth to say something snide, I noticed the real live singer.

The HP location seems to select folk singers (a person and their guitar) whose styles emulate the late 1960's. Back then you were the most popular person in the crowd if you played the guitar. Invited everywhere to help lead the sing-a-longs.

You have my sympathies.

Regards,

this

Some streams (Pandora, Launch, Paradise Radio) were mentioned here. I have listened to them all, and many others, and I think the best by far is bluebeat.com. 320 kb/s, over 500 channels, and the ability to create new channels, and hear channels created by others. No charge, no ads.

jclifton wrote:Top albums of the moment:

Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
South - Adventures In The Underground Journey To The Stars
Devendra Banhart - Cripple Crow
Stereolab - Fab Four Suture
Wolf Parade - Apologies To The Queen Mary
Ms. John Soda - Notes And The Like
Françoise Hardy - The Vogue Years

Nice choices!...love Wolf Parade. i plan on picking up the new B&S soon. I'm currently hooked on the following:

Okkervil River: Black Sheep Boy (Scheff playing at Schubas on 2/24)
Wilco: Kicking Televison
The National: Alligator (playing at the Empty Bottle in March)

I like this music thread. Its always cool to see what others are listening to, buying, and otherwise enjoying.

This week for me, in the car:

The King Kahn and BBQ Show - s/t (Goner)
Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R. - (Teenbeat)

at home:

va - Gold Leaf Branches 3XCD (Digitalis)
massive comp with Charalambides, Six Organs of Admittance, Hala Strana, Marissa Nadler, and a bunch (50+) of others.

We are all so out of the mainstream. Has anyone noticed who is currently at the top of the Billboard charts? Go on, guess. Then scroll down and swallow hard.

K2daP wrote:

jclifton wrote:Nice choices!...love Wolf Parade. i plan on picking up the new B&S soon. I'm currently hooked on the following:

Okkervil River: Black Sheep Boy (Scheff playing at Schubas on 2/24)
Wilco: Kicking Televison
The National: Alligator (playing at the Empty Bottle in March)

Yeah, the new B&S is their best in years. Also love that Wilco album.

I need to pick up The National. I've heard too many good things about it.

It's not often that I hear much new music that really excites me. However, I just received a new recording by an old musician that deserves to be heard by everyone.
Cast King's "Saw Mill Man" can be purchased direct from local label Locust Music (on both vinyl and CD!). You can also read the interesting story and listen to audio samples HERE.
You can thank me later.

Geek confession below!!

I'm what you might call a 'radio guy'. Not AM/FM... scanner and amateur 2-ways. I'm an engineer and, while I enjoy music, I gravitate towards more informative media.

I also log a lot of WBBM hours.

/confession

Just made it through my first listen of the Big Business tour e.p. that I picked up at the show. 4 tracks including a cover of "Be Stiff" by Devo. Sometimes a band just renews your faith in rock and roll.

For those who prefer their music live, The Wife and I are thinking we might check this one out:

Lez Zeppelin

Saturday, March 4
The Cubby Bear
1059 West Addison
Chicago, IL 60613
773-327-1662
$10
Age: 21+

When im in the car I listen to the following:

Morning 7-10AM:
Sports Radio AM 670 or AM 1000

Afternoon/Evening 5-8PM
Michael Savage - AM 560 (This guy makes Rush Limbaugh look like a boy scout)